Whose Imaginings? Whose Future?

In this episode I unpack Stauffer’s (2017) keynote titled “Whose imaginings? Whose future?,” which encourages educators to reflect on who is the shaping the future of their field.

  • Welcome back to another episode of the

    csk8 podcast my name is Jared O'Leary

    each week of this podcast is either an

    interview with a guest or multiple

    guests or a solo episode where I unpacks

    some scholarship in relation to Computer

    Science Education now this week is a

    little bit different so it's 2023 first

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    in the future so today I'm going to be

    unpacking a paper and this paper is

    titled who's imaginings whose future and

    it's by Sandra L Stauffer who is a

    professor that I had at Arizona State

    University so I went there for all three

    of my degrees so I worked with Dr

    Stauffer for many years she was actually

    on my dissertation committee so thank

    you to artist offer for your feedback

    all right so this paper is actually a

    keynote chat for the society for music

    teacher education 2017 conference and

    the theme of this was imagining possible

    Futures so I'm going to chat through

    this particular paper and kind of relate

    it to Computer Science Education now you

    might be wondering Jared why are you

    reading this particular paper or this

    particular keynote well the reason why

    is because I want this to kind of serve

    as a potential warning for a field to

    not get complacent with things and

    whatnot now when I read through this

    paper it reminded me a lot of the

    introduction to a book by Ralph Waldo

    Emerson so I'm going to read off a quote

    here it's like the very first paragraph

    and when I read this in high school it

    was like this really resonates with me

    so the book begins with quote our age is

    retrospective it builds the sipakris of

    the fathers it writes biographies

    histories and criticism the foregoing

    Generations beheld God and nature face

    to face we through their eyes why should

    not we also enjoy an original relation

    to the universe why shouldn't we have a

    poetry and philosophy of insight and not

    of tradition and a religion by

    Revelation to us and not the history of

    theirs in bosom for a season in nature

    whose floods of Life stream around and

    through us and invite us by the powers

    they Supply to action proportion to

    Nature why should we grope among the dry

    bones of the past or put the living

    generation into masquerade out of its

    fated wardrobe The Sun Shines today also

    there is more wool in flax in the fields

    there are new lands new Men new thoughts

    let us demand our own works and laws and

    worship end quote now that quote really

    resonated with me in high school and it

    still resonates with me today I think

    it's important for us to not just look

    back and build off of the past but also

    to look forward and question what could

    be done and what could we do and in this

    case in the paper that we're going to be

    looking at we're going to look at the

    questions of whose imaginings whose

    future so the paper begins with an

    introduction that's kind of like thanks

    everybody and talks about how we had

    some advances in the field of music

    education but again I'm going to relate

    all of this back to Computer Science

    Education because I think it's really

    important to learn from other fields

    other domains to be able to apply these

    contexts into our own context

    right here's an important quote to

    consider this is from page three quote

    to look at our history one would imagine

    that music teacher educators are quite

    fond of change or at least enamored of

    getting together to talk about the

    future of music teacher education music

    education in the schools or even the

    future of schools of Music this is

    certainly not the first time we've

    imagined the future or that others have

    done so on our behalf and sent a support

    Report with their recommendations

    talking about the future or engaging in

    some kind of strategic planning

    initiative occurs in an almost

    predictable cycle in our professional

    organizations end quote okay so this

    quote really resonates with me not only

    for music education because that's what

    my degrees and my background is in but

    also in computer science education I

    have seen people talk about like

    reimagining the future of Computer

    Science Education or having these

    reports that kind of like talk about

    here are some recommendations for the

    future and I've done a lot of unpacking

    scholarship episodes on those different

    types of reports on this particular

    podcast now this is important for us to

    consider because we need to make sure

    that we are not just stuck in the cycle

    of like reimagining without actually

    doing things so the author goes on to

    talk about some examples of some of the

    reports and whatnot that the profession

    has engaged in again this is music

    education and it talks about a variety

    of topics that like relate to things

    that are still being discussed today and

    not really resolved so the author goes

    on to say well has anything actually

    really changed and their response is

    well yes but also no so here's a quote

    from page four quote it's easy to look

    outward for reasons maybe for excuses

    for surely the world is a messy

    complicated place and the need to change

    will always be with us but let me also

    pause it gently with respect that in

    this historical moment we ourselves may

    be in the way of the change we seek why

    because we are firmly embedded

    cognitively socially emotionally

    practically musically in ideas

    structures and realities we already know

    and to shake ourselves loose from those

    structure will take concentrated

    persistent effort end quote a little bit

    further down on that page quote to

    imagine an unknown is challenging and

    the future is certainly unknown as

    difficult as it may be though we should

    imagine possible features and we should

    do so while also admitting to ourselves

    two things first we have little to no

    idea about what the future will be

    remember we knew nothing of YouTube 13

    years ago and second to paraphrase

    cultural Anthropologist Clifford geertz

    who is paraphrasing sociologist Max

    Weber we are caught in webs of

    significance that we ourselves have spun

    the structures we have built the codes

    the signs the stories the narratives the

    discourses that we share and know so

    well also constrain the change we seek

    end quote now for context this was

    written in 2017 and presented in 2017 so

    that's why the dates are a little off of

    YouTube this part really made me reflect

    a bit so when looking at this and was

    thinking okay well in what way am I

    stuck in the past in what way am I not

    of all solving and that for me is kind

    of like a difficult question to think

    through because I constantly engage in

    reflection practices like you may have

    heard in some of the interviews that

    I've done that I will reflect in the

    mornings and the evenings and I will

    just constantly think of like how to

    evolve as a human being in ways that I

    think would benefit me and people around

    me in the world Etc and when I think

    about all the experiences that I've had

    in education that have led to this yes

    it's a varied uh variegated

    multi-perspectable approach in terms of

    I am from music education professionally

    speaking got all my degrees are in that

    and then I became a band General music

    percussion director and then I moved

    into like a technology role where I was

    teaching coding to kids and then I went

    in and I did professional development

    created professional development and

    created curriculum that's used by

    students and teachers all around the

    world had all these like really

    different experiences and whatnot but I

    am still stuck in specific narratives

    and codes and ways of understanding that

    I are related to how I was brought up

    through education not only as a student

    but also as an educator or as a

    facilitator so all of these things kind

    of like impact the ways that I view the

    world of education and therefore impact

    what I see as possible futures for the

    field for myself as an educator and for

    the students that I work with this is

    beneficial and then I have this like

    Gestalt to build off of however it is

    also problematic because I am not able

    to see things that are outside of this

    like narrow scope of you that I've had

    in the world of Education again even

    though that I have had a variety of

    experiences that most teachers don't

    have who might only teach one subject

    area it's still a very limiting and very

    narrow perspective to go off of which is

    why when I do these unpacking

    scholarship episodes I have pulled in

    some scholarship not only from like

    sociology but also from like sports

    psychology like the episode that I did

    on Canada's Erickson's paper which the

    paper is titled the role of deliberate

    practice in the acquisition of expert

    performance if you want to check out

    that particular episode or released in

    January of 2021 but it's also why I look

    at like more familiar domains for myself

    like music education like in this

    particular keynote that I'm reading off

    but then also some more relevant domains

    like maker culture maker spaces Etc so

    you'll find a bunch of different podcast

    episodes that pull in all these

    different perspectives to try and look

    at this idea this field this domain from

    different angles different lenses

    different perspectives in order to

    better understand some different ways

    that we might be able to help the people

    that we're working with whether it's

    teachers or students or whomever but all

    of that starts with first realizing that

    we have some things to look at and to

    reflect upon to really understand where

    we've come from so I had a professor who

    did a class that was talking about

    different types of cultures and whatnot

    and this is broadly speaking like

    Capital C type of cultures and so one of

    the ways that he framed this particular

    class was around centering decentering

    re-centering so the centering idea was

    kind of reflecting on where you're at

    who you are as an individual and how you

    fit within different types of cultures

    Etc the de-centering was in unpacking

    that and trying to find some areas of

    growth or areas where you might not have

    reflected on or maybe even to

    problematize some of the ideas that you

    hold and then the re-centering was to

    okay now after you've like kind of like

    broken things down and like learned some

    new things let's build it back together

    and let's figure out where you are now

    so it's just like continuous cycle that

    you go through of centering decentering

    re-centering that allows you to kind of

    like reflect upon where you are where

    you're going and like some hopefully

    expose some areas that you might not

    understand so this I think is something

    that we could do when it comes to the

    field in like the future of the field

    and our own philosophies or perspectives

    on the field now one of the things that

    I've mentioned in some of the other

    podcast episodes is I'm not really a

    standards kind of person like I don't

    look at them go yeah this is great like

    I understand that there are some uses

    for them however there's also some

    problems and I'll do an unpacking

    scholarship episode in the future that

    kind of like unpacks it but here's a

    little quote from page four from Dr

    Stafford quote standardization has

    become more and more urgent since the

    Industrial Revolution a century earlier

    than that how is one machine to

    interface with another one measurement

    to be compared to another how could

    pieces of an Enterprise or parts of a

    machine made in different places be

    compatible standardization in gizmos and

    gadgets and many other places in our

    lives is a good thing standardization

    allows for predictability which is why

    we know that given the correct adapter

    we can plug our iPhones into sockets

    nearly anywhere in the world and

    recharge them end quote so yes the

    author admits that there are some good

    things with standards I agree there are

    some great things that can come from

    standards however they pose a potential

    reframing of things and this is on page

    five that I'm going to read off now the

    organizations nafmi and Nasim are

    organizations that kind of like help

    support the field of music education now

    think of this like a csta or ACM those

    are kind of like the equivalents when I

    read off this particular quote so this

    is from page five quote but structures

    and standards have multiple downsides

    among them lack a variety no guarantee

    that the standard is the best option

    control of Standards may be inequitable

    or unjust Market or political forces and

    elimination or silencing of rival ideas

    when a standard is widely accepted for

    whatever reason or through whatever set

    of circumstances so we need to be honest

    our structures Naf me nasm and others

    are a century old based on language and

    ideas that are two centuries-old and

    firmly grounded in standardization and

    in my view our structures have impacts

    that stand in the way of change still as

    dareda says within every text every

    structure is its own undoing it is

    always already coming apart cracking

    rupturing and in those cracks and breaks

    are the possibilities of opening and

    newness how might we hurry that along

    end quote now a little bit further down

    on the page the author clarifies that

    the different structures have some

    different binaries and even dualisms

    that are in this case centuries old and

    they're often meant to perpetuate the

    paradigms and practices of their day so

    here's a very quick little history you

    listen for those of you who are

    unfamiliar with it so music education

    was actually introduced into the schools

    in the 1800s and it was by Lowell Mason

    so Lowell Mason was running it like

    basically think of it an out of school

    choir with kids so Lowell Mason wanted

    to prove that hey kids can learn how to

    sing and they can actually do this in

    school so this could be beneficial for

    them so they created this program this

    choir and they advocated for it and they

    got it into schools when it was

    introduced into the schools it was the

    type of like music making and activities

    that people like to engage in outside of

    school context the same thing happened

    with band and with Orchestra for those

    of you who don't know in the 1800s and

    like even in the early 1900s the popular

    form of listening to music for like

    player pianos and Records Etc came out

    was to go and listen to a live

    performance by a band so this would be

    like equivalent to going to like a rap

    concert today in terms of seeing your

    favorite musicians and hearing your

    favorite songs in order to listen to

    that because this was like pre-radio

    pre-record player Etc you had to go to

    like a park and listen to a live uh

    organization or Group performing

    whatever kind of music that they were

    playing

    now this made it so that if you wanted

    to listen to your own music you had to

    either perform on an instrument or sing

    or know somebody who would do this so

    when all these different forms of music

    education whether it was like the choir

    or orchestra or band when they were

    introduced into these schools that was

    the popular type of music of that day

    now here's the real kicker to think

    through if music education had not been

    introduced until 2023 we would have if

    we had taken the exact same approach we

    would not introduce band choir and

    Orchestra why because that is not the

    popular music that people are listening

    to we would not be advocating for hey we

    should be doing this thing that's like a

    couple centuries old and we should be

    putting it into our classrooms instead

    what we would say is we need to

    introduce the type of music that people

    are listening to and in creating today

    and so that would most likely be rap

    hip-hop EDM production it would not be

    Jazz it would not be Rock Etc it would

    be the things that people are really

    engaging with right now this is

    important to consider from a like policy

    and advocacy kind of standpoint when we

    are advocating for like different ways

    of making music in this particular

    context we need to make sure we are

    advocating for the ways that people

    engage with music outside of schools now

    what does this have to do with Computer

    Science Education you might be wondering

    well let me tell you real quick my fear

    for computer science education is that

    we are going to replicate some of those

    problems that music educators have in

    that we are going to introduce Computer

    Science Education

    in ways that were meaningful to us at

    the time and not evolve and adapt to

    what is going on with the ways that

    people are engaging with computer

    science practices Concepts skills Etc

    outside of the classroom which when we

    are stuck in standards these standards

    are written and they are often not

    adjusted or adapted or modified for

    several years sometimes a decade or more

    depending on like the field Etc so I had

    the privilege a few years ago to work

    with some Wyoming Educators to come up

    with their state standards but one of

    the things that we talked about is how

    the process typically was like I don't

    know like a decade or so between like

    when standards were implemented and when

    a new weird Vision came out but that is

    too slow of a process for computer

    science education so when we're engaging

    in these standards we have this like

    tendency to create things that are

    relevant in the time but we don't

    necessarily adapt to the changes that

    happen over the subsequent years and

    therefore the standards become more and

    more out of date and and less useful so

    what can we do about this so the author

    mentions in this keynote that the first

    thing that they recommend is that

    instead of calling them standards

    perhaps we should call them guidelines

    so here's a quote from the bottom of

    page five quote standards are codes for

    compliance meant to keep things in place

    and predictable for a paradigm that

    looks like this vertical line and is

    about the past that is not what we are

    about end quote now if you're wondering

    what does the vertical line thing refer

    to it's talking about something that's

    mentioned in the pages above it so if

    you're interested to check that out but

    it's just kind of like a framework or

    metaphor to think through but the main

    point of this particular argument is if

    we change the word standards to

    guidelines then it makes it more honest

    as to what they are and then less

    punitive so every state has like

    different variations of like the

    national standards which makes it so

    that there's more local control so some

    districts have a different set of

    standards in other districts depending

    on what state you're in well as some

    states have the just like alignment to

    the national standards now again this is

    just guidelines like I agree that the

    wording is better and um hopefully we

    can look at this and and like understand

    that it should be more adaptable to the

    local which we talk about a little bit

    later in this particular keynote so the

    second thing that the author recommends

    is quote since many of us here have been

    raised in the structure we have adopted

    the language the codes and the gestures

    of the structure and we perpetuate that

    language those gestures those codes

    without thinking about it end quote this

    is from page six a little bit further

    down quote while we're talking about

    codes look at your school's website

    recruiting materials language

    descriptions advertising what are the

    messages encoded in them who are they

    important to why and do we have enough

    courage to talk about that to be honest

    and transparent about what those

    messages might mean end quote so there

    have been multiple guests who have been

    on this particular podcast and then

    multiple unpacking scholarship episodes

    where kind of talk about how

    representation is important for

    different reasons so if you want to

    learn more about that check out some of

    the episodes on representation at csk8

    podcast now the third thing that the

    author recommends is very specific to

    the schools of music or music programs

    so the author recommends just sitting in

    your department and closing your eyes

    and just listening to the kinds of

    sounds that you hear now the author

    recommends not only listening to the

    different types of sounds but also

    listening at different times of day and

    to figure out who is welcome and who is

    not welcome within this particular

    program so for context in schools of

    music for example you might hear Jazz

    you might hear classical like the

    Western European classical music but if

    you don't hear EDM or you don't hear rap

    or Mariachi or throat singing or

    whatever this should give you an idea of

    who is welcome and who is not welcome in

    the schools you can do a similar thing

    in computer science programs you can go

    into classrooms and you can listen to

    the things that people are saying or you

    can use your eyes open your eyes and

    look at not only who is in the classroom

    but the ways that they are engaging with

    computer science Concepts skills

    practices

    Etc in the classrooms that are offering

    computer science or integrating computer

    science into them what will this tell

    you well it might tell you about who is

    welcome who is not welcome might also

    tell you what kinds of ways that people

    are able to engage with computer science

    and that might again tell you who might

    be interested or not interested in those

    times of Engagement so again like my

    classroom was multiple programming

    languages going on simultaneously so if

    you walked into it you'd see one student

    working on JavaScript and coding some

    art and animation the next student might

    be working on scratch like a game the

    next student might be working on Sonic

    Pi coding some live music and then the

    next student might be doing Swift

    whether Swift playgrounds or might be

    coding like an app for their iPhone or

    an iPad or something like that so

    there's all these different ways of

    Engagement going on in the classroom now

    if you were to just listen you would

    hear people talking about things that

    they're interested it in rather than

    just like recreating the same thing so

    they'd be like talking about sports and

    how they're going to integrate that idea

    or that concept into their project or

    whatever so there's a lot of like things

    that people were able to do in the

    classrooms that I work with that was by

    design that was intentional if you want

    to learn more about how I designed and

    facilitated those kinds of classes then

    check out the episode title applications

    of affinity space characteristics in

    computer science education now the

    fourth thing that the author recommends

    is actually looking at not just what is

    being taught or how it is being taught

    but who is engaging with a field or a

    domain so who are these students who are

    learning computer science if we're

    thinking about it in relation to the

    classes you might be facilitating don't

    just focus on the content or the

    pedagogy we need to think about who we

    are working with we are working with

    individuals we can't just treat them as

    a collective or as a group Etc

    and we need to not just think about like

    their demographics and their cultures

    but also why is this important for them

    to understand or for them to know or if

    they are not passionate about Computer

    Science Education why that is something

    for us to consider and for us to be able

    to adapt to so the author recommends

    that every program should look different

    so here's a little random tangent from

    back when I was teaching General music

    and band and when I first started

    teaching the very first class that I

    ever taught on my own like after I was

    hired it was a three grade level course

    I think it was like second third and

    fourth grade something like that and are

    supposed to teach them a song about

    being back into school and ready to go

    only problem is none of the students in

    the class spoke any English I was not

    allowed to modify the lessons or I would

    get written up which I did and instead I

    was forced by administrators to teach

    students how to do a song in English

    when they didn't understand what we were

    saying and it was a split grade level

    across three different grades so it was

    not developmentally appropriate for

    everybody this for some it was too easy

    for others it was too hard why was I

    forced to do this because every single

    Elementary School all 50 plus of them in

    that District had to teach the exact

    same lesson the same week to the same

    grade levels things were standardized to

    a point where it did not account for who

    was in the classroom I am so grateful

    that I had that terrible experience the

    first time I taught on my own because it

    really taught me the lesson that what

    matters is who we are working with not

    just the concepts and practices that we

    are teaching that was such a valuable

    lesson for myself to get on my very

    first experience teaching on my own full

    time at least because I had been

    teaching Drumline since my like senior

    year of high school in private lessons

    and all that fun stuff here's a quote

    from page seven that I'll modify

    slightly to focus on Computer Science

    Education it's definitely applicable

    quote Computer Science Education is

    learning and teaching in many ways among

    many people in many places end quote a

    little bit further down quote perhaps we

    can begin imagining possible features

    from a different point of view a local

    point of view every view is a view from

    somewhere and the local is where life is

    lived Grand statements are nice they are

    made by us for people we barely know

    what do I know of the life of a child

    experiencing homelessness or a popular

    musician becoming guitar songwriter

    teacher or a string student in New York

    or an adolescent in West Virginia what

    Futures do they imagine how do I know

    about them and if I do not know about

    them then what how could music making

    and Music Learning be meaningful if one

    does not know what it means to anyone

    else but oneself so here's my bold

    proposal what I propose is radical

    listening end quote again from page

    seven this point really resonates with

    me if you haven't listened to the

    episode that John Stapleton and I did

    it's on a paper that we wrote titled

    fostering intersectional identities

    through rhizomatic learning I highly

    recommend taking a look at that it's

    really focusing on making it so that

    curricula and computer science

    engagement is hyper local rather than

    just like everybody across a school or

    District or region State Nation Etc is

    all engaging in the same ways of

    learning and understanding as somebody

    who has written curricula that is used

    around the world what I really tried to

    focus on was making it so that students

    and teachers were encouraged to adapt

    the projects to make it more meaningful

    to them so every single video every

    single resource always encouraged kids

    and adults to make this unique and

    customized to their own learning

    experiences rather than making us so

    that everybody replicated the projects

    that I demonstrated in scratch junior or

    scratch so when it comes to computer

    science you can do this for yourself and

    the students that you work with again

    the way that I did it listen to the

    Affinity space episode that I mentioned

    earlier but it's just basically about

    getting it so that kids come into the

    class with their interests and they

    share it with other people by creating

    different Expressions through code so

    the author goes on to talk about what

    does radical listening mean so the

    describing experience of attending a

    political rally as a protester and so

    there were basically two sides divided

    by a road and like some barricades and

    things like that so one side was in

    support of somebody who was visiting the

    town and then the other side were people

    who were against that and while they may

    have been like yelling things at the

    other side or they may have been like

    holding up signs that demonstrated what

    they're saying they're not actually

    talking in a way that both sides were

    willing to engage and listen

    appropriately instead they're engaging

    in discourse of practices that were

    trying to persuade one side to

    understand and agree with the other side

    as opposed to trying to listen for

    understanding a different point of view

    or a different perspective one way that

    I think this is really relevant to

    Computer Science Education is okay well

    if we think of the roughly 40 of people

    who don't think that Equity should be

    discussed in computer science context

    rather than saying hey it should be

    discussed in computer science context

    why don't we actually sit down and ask

    well why don't you think that I've

    talked about this in other episodes like

    related to curriculum and integration

    Etc about how maybe the people who think

    that Equity should not be discussed in

    computer science may be the reason why

    is because they don't think that we

    should focus on anything other than

    skills Concepts practices Etc so we

    should be hyper focused on the

    understandings and applying them in a

    context you might apply it in an

    equitable way hopefully you would but

    those people might think we should focus

    on the concepts and practices rather

    than the application of it itself I

    don't know I'm just guessing here what

    the author is recommending is that we

    listen and I recommend that for the

    field as well it's trying to better

    understand different perspectives that

    we might not agree with all right so

    that was kind of a short summary of The

    keynote itself if you're interested in

    it I highly recommend taking a look at

    it but at the end of these unpacking

    scholarship episodes I like to think

    through some lingering questions and

    thoughts and just kind of share them to

    share here are the things that I'm still

    thinking through as a result of reading

    through a article or whatever

    okay so the first question that I have

    is when is a standard more useful than a

    guideline so while I agree with what the

    author is saying in terms of instead of

    calling them standards what if we call

    them guidelines I can also think of

    advocacy and policy work around getting

    computer science into schools where it

    might be really beneficial to have

    standards it makes us look more

    legitimate it makes us look more like a

    core subject area which some are arguing

    computer science should be but again as

    I've ranted about in other episodes of

    this podcast that I have a tendency to

    disagree with that because it makes us

    so that if we continue to add one more

    subject this year and then I don't know

    five years from now we add another core

    subject and then another and then

    another we're just going to continue to

    dilute all of these subject areas that

    we have so instead of mandating a bunch

    of new subject areas over the next

    couple of decades perhaps instead we

    should make it so that you get to choose

    where you develop your expertise the

    next question that I have is whose

    voices are being heard and who's are

    being silenced so as a non-binary

    individual I have noticed a moment in

    the field where white male colleagues

    have been dismissed and I find that to

    be problematic it's great that we

    amplify voices of marginalized

    individuals groups communities Etc but

    if we flip the oppression onto the

    oppressor this goes against Paulo

    Freddie's notion of dialogue which if

    you haven't listened to those particular

    episodes I have done unpacking

    scholarship episodes on chapters 1

    chapter 2 chapter 3 and chapter four I

    believe it's chapter three in particular

    that talks about dialogue so I highly

    recommend taking a look at that one to

    learn more about the concepts that I'm

    talking about here because I totally

    agree with advocating for an amplifying

    voice of marginalized identities but I

    have an issue with if we just simply

    flip it so that the oppressor is now the

    oppressed because if we agree that an

    act is highly inappropriate or

    problematic why would we want to then do

    that onto the person who's doing it to

    us it just doesn't make sense to me

    another question that I have is when and

    why are the needs of Corporation and

    outweighing the needs of communities

    groups or individuals and if you want to

    hear more about that particular idea

    check out the podcast episode or even

    the paper that's for free that I did on

    a titled reconceptualizing music making

    music technology and freedom in the age

    of neoliberalism and I relate to this

    computer science education if you listen

    to the podcast episode but the paper

    itself also talks quite a bit about

    Computer Science Education in particular

    even though it's about music education

    and music technology and here's one more

    quote from page 10 quote who's

    imaginings whose future I don't know

    what if instead of imagining a future

    for undergraduates we imagined with them

    what if instead of imagining a future

    for in-service teachers our colleagues

    we imagined with them what if instead of

    imagining a future for pre-k-12 Learners

    or any Learners anywhere for that matter

    we imagined with them the future is not

    us the future is them end quote Dr

    Stauffers drop on some mics on that one

    I really like that quote I really like

    those questions to think through and it

    definitely resonates with that paper

    that I mentioned on fostering

    intersectional identities through

    rhizomatic learning so check out that

    episode if you haven't listened to that

    one if you got an idea that you like to

    share about how you are imagining things

    with the students and colleagues that

    you work with or the features you can

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Article

Stauffer, S. L. (2017, September 9). Whose Imaginings? Whose Future? Closing keynote for the Society for Music Teacher Education 2017 Conference.


My One Sentence Summary

This keynote encourages educators to reflect on who is the shaping the future of their field.


Some Of My Lingering Questions/Thoughts

  • When is a standard more useful than a guideline?

  • Whose voices are being heard and whose are being silenced?

    • When and why are the needs of corporations outweighing the needs of communities, groups, or individuals?

  • Whose Imaginings? Whose Future?


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